''Superfluous young men''

Harvard and WINEP scholar and notorious zionist Martin Kramer argues here that the solution to radical Islam isn't in resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict but in treating radicalization at its roots; lowering the birth rate in the palestinian territories and stopping aid to Palestinians. And he does so by basing his argument on a German demographer analysis.

This is clearly a call to justify Israel's systematic killing of young Palestinian men and children...Listen particularly around minute 2 and 45 ''

In the speech Kramer rejected common views that Islamist "radicalization" is caused by US policies such as support for Israel, or propping up despotic dictatorships, and stated that it was inherent in the demography of Muslim societies such as Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and the Israeli-occupied Gaza Strip. Too many children, he argued, leads to too many "superfluous young men" who then become violent radicals...Due to the Israeli blockade, the vast majority of Palestinians in Gaza are now dependent on UN food aid. Neither the UN, nor any other agencies, provide Palestinians with specifically "pro-natal subsidies." Kramer appeared to be equating any humanitarian assistance at all with inducement for Palestinians to reproduce.

And a call for genocide.

The graph above is based on statistics conducted by the Israeli Institute for counterterrorism on the civilian casualties in Gaza between 2000 and 2003.  It shows that israel targets intently all Palestinian young males especially between 10 and 30 years of age.  The killing is being conducted under our watch, but to Martin Kramer, this is not enough, maybe he wants more radical, rapid, systematic elimination by any means.  In this case he should consult with those who tried to eliminate his own people on the basis of a similar cavalier invented assumption...


Wolfie said...

I've often argued with Jewish acquaintances who complain about the birth rate that maybe a better solution all along was to build the Palestinians luxury condominiums with pools and cable tv. I can't help but notice that throughout the world the more poverty and violence in a country the higher the birth-rate. In spite of the fact that it seems counterintuitive.

Perhaps insulting everyone might help.

Sophia said...

Hello Wolfie,

Nice to see you on the blogs again, I see that the little one is giving you some time.

It is not counterintuitive to reproduce in this way in hostile environments. You may check the concept of the r and k selections at the link below. Usually I don't like to borrow so much from the Theory of natural selection to explain everything and especially Human phenomena but this is the good part of the theory of natural selection because it gives primary importance not to genes but to strategies of reproduction conducted at the species level.

Best regards,


Sophia said...

And YES Wolfie, you are absolutely right, nice condos will lower birth rates, and this what Kramer missed from demographers. One of the first factors demographers have been highlighting in the lowering of birth rates is well being and education...

annie said...


A good retort to that incredibly racist and genocidal statement in yesterday's Boston Globe

Gert said...


"And YES Wolfie, you are absolutely right, nice condos will lower birth rates, and this what Kramer missed from demographers."

I don't think that's a particularly helpful critique of the imbecile's theorette: far more to the point is that Kramer leaves out all together the drivers behind any radicalisation. Rich or poor, from large or small families, Palestinians (young or old, male or female) have much to be radicalised about. Take away the root cause of this radicalisation (exile and/or the Occupation) and you take away the radicalisation.

This is of course what Kramer NOT wants to do. He wants to maintain the status quo and curb any radicalisation by pre-emptive culling. And for those still entertaining any doubts about the deeply racist nature of Kramer's statements, try substituting 'Muslim' with 'African American'...

Careful also with Darwinian arguments about demography: for the most part these are theories that cannot be proved nor disproved.

Since March 29th 2006